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iam4uk_lmtd
post Nov 3 2009, 02:23 AM
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Two teams tied this week and the option if for the commissioner to break the tie. Where do i go to break this tie at?
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post Nov 3 2009, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE (iam4uk_lmtd @ Nov 3 2009, 08:23 AM) *
Two teams tied this week and the option if for the commissioner to break the tie. Where do i go to break this tie at?

You have to go in and adjust one of the player's scores. That is Fanball's idea of commissioner breaks ties.
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post Nov 3 2009, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE (iam4uk_lmtd @ Nov 3 2009, 08:23 AM) *
Two teams tied this week and the option if for the commissioner to break the tie. Where do i go to break this tie at?


If you have your league setup as “Commissioner Breaks the Tie” you’ll need to either give the winning team an extra point or remove a point from the losing team. To do this please go to Commissioner Controls->Adjust Scoring, choose the period (week) and then input the total score for the team you are changing and click the “Save Changes” button.
To recalculate the stats after making changes to your league please go to Commissioner Controls->Recalculate Stats. Select the week and click the “Submit” button. Note that whatever week you choose the site will run stats from that week to the most current week. It normally takes about 5 minutes for the stats to recalculate and update your standings and matchups.


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post Nov 17 2009, 02:24 AM
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My goodness, are you kidding? Why does everything have to be so complicated? Before, we just had the option of changing the tie to a win or a loss for the involved teams. So now, let's adjust the scores by making the points inaccurate to give the teams the win or the loss. It just doesn't make any sense. This is just one of many many issues with the site this year. How is it that after 10 weeks into the season we still have issues, sometimes with the most basic of issues? It's just crazy! I don't know how else to put it. It's just freakin' crazy! I could have just saved the money this year and done the work myself, as I did in the past before finding Fanball. It had its little kinks here and there, but in years past there were not issues with nearly everything, and certainly not by week 10. What in the world happened to make this site take the dive that it has?

OK, I'm done, as my rant will not really accomplish anything anyways.


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If you have your league setup as “Commissioner Breaks the Tie” you’ll need to either give the winning team an extra point or remove a point from the losing team. To do this please go to Commissioner Controls->Adjust Scoring, choose the period (week) and then input the total score for the team you are changing and click the “Save Changes” button.
To recalculate the stats after making changes to your league please go to Commissioner Controls->Recalculate Stats. Select the week and click the “Submit” button. Note that whatever week you choose the site will run stats from that week to the most current week. It normally takes about 5 minutes for the stats to recalculate and update your standings and matchups.

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post Nov 17 2009, 03:14 AM
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Why would anyone want to allow the commissioner to give one team a win and one a loss if they had the same score? Where's the harm in actually allowing the tie and going from there, unless you're in the playoffs? If you're actually using this method, do you have a set manner in awarding the win (say visiting team over home team)?
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post Nov 17 2009, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE (eslifer @ Nov 17 2009, 09:14 AM) *
Why would anyone want to allow the commissioner to give one team a win and one a loss if they had the same score? Where's the harm in actually allowing the tie and going from there, unless you're in the playoffs? If you're actually using this method, do you have a set manner in awarding the win (say visiting team over home team)?



That's funny, you posted "(say visiting team over home team)" as if the schedule maker worked when the season started, well I have one team that has 13 home games and 0 road games because the schedule maker didn't work correctly, like sooooo many other upgrades implemented this (my leagues last here) season.

It's just amazing how many screw ups this site has encountered this season and it ALL comes from people who think they know how to run a FF site, or league for that matter, when it's perfectly clear they have absolutely No Clue what they are doing. I'm embarrassed for them, I sure hope they are as well....Week 11 and we're still confused on how to set up leagues to score the way we intended. They changed scoring (never told anyone), they changed Division Rankings (never told anyone), I could go on....Bye Bye Fanball.


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post Nov 17 2009, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (eslifer @ Nov 17 2009, 09:14 AM) *
Why would anyone want to allow the commissioner to give one team a win and one a loss if they had the same score? Where's the harm in actually allowing the tie and going from there, unless you're in the playoffs? If you're actually using this method, do you have a set manner in awarding the win (say visiting team over home team)?

Why allow ties or have the commissioner do it when there are two automated systems that work perfectly fine? Have an OT player or use the points on the bench to decide who wins. Having the commissioner do it could lead to some problems.
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post Nov 17 2009, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (Killerz67 @ Nov 17 2009, 07:07 PM) *
That's funny, you posted "(say visiting team over home team)" as if the schedule maker worked when the season started, well I have one team that has 13 home games and 0 road games because the schedule maker didn't work correctly, like sooooo many other upgrades implemented this (my leagues last here) season.

It's just amazing how many screw ups this site has encountered this season and it ALL comes from people who think they know how to run a FF site, or league for that matter, when it's perfectly clear they have absolutely No Clue what they are doing. I'm embarrassed for them, I sure hope they are as well....Week 11 and we're still confused on how to set up leagues to score the way we intended. They changed scoring (never told anyone), they changed Division Rankings (never told anyone), I could go on....Bye Bye Fanball.

I forgot all about that problem since it really doesn't matter who's home or away in my league. But is there a reason not to allow ties in a regular season game? Seems that having a commissioner break ties is too subjective and less fair to all involved than just allowing ties.
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post Nov 17 2009, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (eslifer @ Nov 17 2009, 09:03 PM) *
I forgot all about that problem since it really doesn't matter who's home or away in my league. But is there a reason not to allow ties in a regular season game? Seems that having a commissioner break ties is too subjective and less fair to all involved than just allowing ties.



No reason other than league's likes and dislikes. I don't mind them but the league I run does and it actually came into effect this very week with a 75.5-75.5 score, we use bench scoring.

I guess I was just taking a cheap-shot at the site, and for that I apologize.


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post Nov 17 2009, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (Killerz67 @ Nov 18 2009, 02:33 AM) *
No reason other than league's likes and dislikes. I don't mind them but the league I run does and it actually came into effect this very week with a 75.5-75.5 score, we use bench scoring.

I guess I was just taking a cheap-shot at the site, and for that I apologize.

It was a valid point by you, not a cheap shot. I was just curious how some leagues break the ties, because without having a set system it seems like it really wouldn't be fair. It's certainly not like we have all reasonable people here. lol
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post Nov 18 2009, 12:45 AM
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In our leagues, we have criteria set to break ties that is not covered by what Fanball offers. We have a backup commish in each league, and our leagues have been going for long enough that people are knowledgeable enough to figure out who should be awarded a tiebreaker victory. If a commissioner decided to play unfairly, it would be noticed quite quickly in our leagues. My point in all of this was that it was a very easy task that made sense before. Now we have to change the points to make them inaccurate. Yes, it's only one point, but in tiebreakers for division titles and playoff spots, it can come into play. We then have to go and save this data, and then run a recalculate of stats. The old way was very simple, and the task was accomplished easily. It's just one of a few things that have been changed, and seem to be more complex and confusing than they were before. And all of this on top of all the other things you see in the forums that leagues are having problems with.

And the most frustrating thing is that customer service has been quite lacking in the providing of 'service', in my opinion. Waiting weeks to get a reply saying something like "We're sorry for the delay in responding to your issue. Please contact us again if you have not been able to resolve the problem." That's why we contact them in the first place, isn't it? I just gave up on trying to contact anybody from customer service, and look to the forums here to see if anybody has had the same issues, and what solutions they have found to resolve them. I wanted things to be better, but thus far, they have not been. I know that alot of other people and league have had various problems, and looking through the forums, things don't seem to be improving as the season goes along. It has been a very frustrating year, and I think it's going to show in the number of leagues that decided to stay with Fanball after this year. Even if they were to offer it for free next year, our leagues will not be returning to Fanball next year.
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